...dream on...fools...
listening to: the beautiful south - rotterdam
this post was lying in my drafts for such a long tym..never sat to finish it up..had only written the first para till now...:D
couple of months back we celebrated our 62nd year of freedom...and first thing noticed by me which happens every year...the desis in lala land amrika..were the first to wish happy independence day..naah, it's not their patriotism...be it any festival...hahahaha
imagine being wished for janmashtami..wtf :D
happy janmashtami...
cracked me up....
it's so pseudo...they have this dream of going to their dream land USA...yeah the call of the greenback is so irresistible...their refrain..there are no opportunities here...no options for higher studies...
they go there..complete their studies..then their crying starts...
"des ki bohaut yaad aati hai yaar..."(eng translation: the country that we left behind is always on our minds)
"working here is not that easy..."(read..i dont wanna be accountable!!!)
my take...
you know what the problems with indians is...
we have a tendency to flock together...we dont blend in with the locals...we dont respect their traditions...all we know is contempt...and criticism...for the firangis and for our countrymen in india...that's all we got to talk about...
how many of you know people (indians) who have firangis for room mates???
ok, during their graduation it's wiser to live in with desis bcoz that fits in with everything..your course, your finances, your eating habits...
but once you get a job, you have an option...but we indians go looking for desi roommates...
why not be a lil more liberal...blend in???
i know one guy...and i m proud to know such a person...hez my college mate...did his m.s. and now works for salesforce...correction..more than one guy..my skoolfriends too...
i m not surprised at the kind of racial attacks that have been happening in australia...
we play loud blaring music in the middle of the night..we have some kind of attitude problem...we think that every caucasian woman is "easy"...
what's happening to indians in australia is the same thing that's happening to bhaiyyas in maharashtra...we work their jobs, we earn their money, we save and we keep it with us...we dont participate, we dont give back..we disrespect their women..(this is one thing that i hate about north indian men..they dont have even an iota of respect for women...one should travel in the buses in mumbai to get a taste of what i m talking about...and in this the marathi manoos is also not that far behind...but the situation is not as bad as the blue line buses of delhi...indian men are dogs...period...but have to say, in the south, atleast in kerala, women have more respect..even though half the women wear a mundu and a blouse, they dont get gawked at... )
we segregate ourselves in foreign lands based upon religion and language too...and ohh yeah, citizenship status..:D
all the mallus, bengalis, gujjus, telugus..will have parties and get-togethers every weekend...but gujjus will only invite gujjus, bengalis will only have bengalis and mallus will only have mallus...and so on...and what do they want to talk about in these get togethers..they brag about what class their kids are going to...each parent wants to be one up on the other...and in all this the children suffer...we indians just dont give options to our kids...it's all forced down on them..so the avg indian nri child will be attending classical music, classical dance, violin, piano, and what not...when do they get the tym to be children and act their age...
and the size of their egos is directly proportional to the visa or citizenship status they hold...:D
the segregation and discrimination happens on that level too...citizens, green card holders, h1bs, l1s...
if you cant adapt to their way of life and work culture why do you work there???
is all i can ask...
anyways, this is one song i like very much...rotterdam...
when i was a kid this woman was the most beautiful woman for me on this planet for a period of tym...hehehe
and what a lovely voice she has...:)
Labels: musings, state of mind, vdo
posted by the humbl devil @ 3:27 AM
11 screams
11 screams:
Strong words buddy....real strong words. But, i do agree with most of what you have said. It is all about being sensitive to a culture. Trust me, as is the case with Mumbai, people who come here in the US are treated with a huge culture shock. Small things as being excessively polite - a simple smile, a thank you, an excuse me - are suddenly seen as "what's up with that person?". But, whatever you have expressed is not entirely true! Yes there is pressure exerted by parents over their kids...but the extent of this is more in India than in the US. Personally, i would like some of this control over kids here. Kids have a lot rights primarily to protect them from abuse...but, there is a lot of leeway as well. You need this control to keep them on track....being open and "American" is not all that great! I would like them to be culturally sensitive to their "Indian roots" as well. And about being in a flock, it is not Indian...but Asian! Trust me on this! I am speaking by experience :) and you can't argue on that! But, are you trying to suggest that Americans don't flock together in groups? If you lived and grew up in Kerala, you would pretty much have the same attitude if you traveled up north to a university or for work...and don't say no! It's a human tendency to be in an "in-group" or a comfort group. But, what is important is that you are not stuck with this group, and rather open to others around you as well. Personally, I have seen here in schools that most Indians form teams and groups with other Indian students....I have avoided doing that. In my 3 semesters I have had a diverse teams with students from US, Chile, Kyrgyztan, India, Turkey, China, France, Nigeria...and this does add a lot of value. But, that does not mean that I don't hang out with "fellow-Indians"...I need that to be able to speak my language, be able to enjoy my culture, and in a way remain attached to my roots! So it's a balancing act....and one needs to be "educated" about it. "Educated" is the key word here! That will ensure that those who come here are not in a state of shock but, are amused and excited about the openness and opportunities.
all valid points...
but there one place where i have to disagree...you cant force something on children..you always need to give them a choice...you need to sensitise them to all the options available...
and have to say, the parents over there..most of them just do things to brag...
remember we had a chat over this...your words..
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u: do ur and my parents force us into these things
its terrible over here
me: the new age indian parents do..hehe..if they get the chance :P
u: whenever i went with my cousin to any social gathering this is all the parents talk abt
my son won the chess tournament
me: the problem with indians everywhere is the same!!!
u: my daughter has a recital
me: they like to boast a lot!!!
u: my kid came first in the school spelling bee
wtf
i cant imagine my life as a kid like that
me: hogging the limelight at the expense of their wards!
u: i kno
and then whenever they do a little mistake, they are immediate in pointing out their dissapointment
me: i know..."
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and u have done a 180 ..:D
we chatted on dec 31st last yr...
maybe it's an educated turnaround...lot of tym has passed since then...
:)
but my point is, how many of the american parents enroll their kids into so many classes all at once???
we enevr learn to adjust according to the place we are in...
add to that the discrimination meted out to fellow indians over there..by our own people..no wonder the firangis dont think twice before doing the same thing...
racism is within us all. stop hating first. don't get frustrated at fellow indians. every one of us are ignorant and naive and narrow minded in our own ways. as long as we have the best intentions at heart. and if you want all indians to stop stereotyping. like the example you gave about indian men thinking women are easy and stuff. then you stop stereotyping all together. this entire post is meaningless to me even if it is true because my only purpose is to give every single person the benefit of doubt, good and bad. so if you take every single person in your life for face value and attribute them their own self and personalities, you will never notice nor be concerned with what groups of an ethnic class do. just the fact that you are writing such an post shows that you like all of us humans are falling into the bobby trap of classifying, stereotyping and prejudice. so don't hate another's ignorance. that only displays your own ignorance.
i m not a saint... :)
and there's a limit to my tolerance..mind you...it's a very far reaching limit...
after that, something snaps..and you get the ignorant me...
>:)
but have to admit, there is still a minority of well intentioned indians with a good conscience...
thanx for the comment :)
Well - I have no takes on this one...;)
(How have you beeen?)
:)
me doing fyn, dude...
:)
Devil...today you proved yourself!
Damn!!! STOP Stereotyping.....I did not expect this type of post from you.....Gosh!
What do you know about America and the Desis here...If you think all the Desis are the same...fine...but, I am not Okay! I have friends from all over the world and this is one of my best experience of having an "American Education".
Agree, I too dislike some desi's...but there are always exceptions. Do you have any idea of how comfortable 'Americans' are in hanging out with international students?
Secondly, how do you say that only Bhaiyaa's disrespect women in Mumbai????? What proof do you have?? Did you ask that man what is his caste or did you do some survey?? How far better are the other men....... In my opinion every boy would pass some filthy comment on girls atleast once in their life....boys are NOT saints!! So isn't that disrespect??? So please don't stereotype on caste.
Thirdly, don't you like celebrating your Mallu festivals with your mallu friends and relatives?? Don't you like to speak in Malayalee?? The same is the case....here people have get together's with their community people but not always - the way you have written. People like to keep their cultural roots intact!
Ego's.....??? phheewwww
Maybe you have come across a typical desi or may be I have met some wonderful people.
I very strongly disagree on some aspects in your post!!
abcd :
you expected some kind of post from me???
i believe i know you or is it the other way round???
You are a gifted writer. You move people's hearts with your words.
I think every country has its bad points and good points. It breaks my heart that racism is a problem in your wonderful country.
I live in America--and every since third grade I have been fascinated with Australia--I've loved its history and wanted to visit.
I've loved hearing stories of the genius of the Aborigines. How sad the beauty of the Indian culture there is being robbed by racism.
People are people no matter what color their skin. God made people like flowers, all beautiful, in every shape size and color one can think of...we should celebrate differences, not punish people because of them.
Thanks for letting this old lady rant a little. (Grin)
Beth :
thank you...:)
i m not that great...there are more wonderful writers...much more wonderful than me...the girl sharyu above..she writes beautifully...
so does lena...you should check out lena's magazine..
it will take me a long tym to match upto their level..:)
btw, i was not referring to the aborigines...ryt now, in australia, indian students form the majority of international students alongwith the chinese, in the australian universities...
and these indian students are being targeted..they have been robbed, beaten up and even left for dead sometyms..
it's a bit ruff ryt there for indians ryt now...
basically an indian person cant travel alone late at nyt...he will either be beaten up or robbed..indians come as easy targets for the hoodlums there...
try this link below...
http://bit.ly/hUJCT
and with regards to racism..
it will take some tym for us to learn...
but not all indians are like that...
the younger generation is quite cosmopolitan...things will be much better one generation down the line...
it's only when people take undue pride of their identities and discriminate that problems arise...
and please, no need for thanks..the comments section is for the readers...
:)
p.s. to all
if i have offended anybody, i would like to say sorry...
:)
Alrite!
You better post new one..So that I can express my views
;)
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